Sellers To Be Concerned About

For a while the fraudsters had gone underground at eBay, it seems that they are starting to rear their ugly heads again. So once again we will be regularly posting to this blog in the efforts to warn potential bidders of shady cards and dealers. What we are reporting are cards that seem to be priced to well to be real and the reason why we think they are bogus. This week we bring you:

Seller: the_rock_2007 This seller appears to have a few ungraded Jordan cards that are all in Mint condition. A few to many to really make his story believable.

Previously sold:
Michael Jordan rookie 1986/87 Fleer: Item#: 260058619587
Michael Jordan rookie 1986/87 Fleer: Item#: 260054235747

Currently selling: Update item ended with a final price of $349.00
Michael Jordan rookie 1986/87 Fleer: Item#: 260081636426

Seller is back with 2 more Jordans:
Michael Jordan rookie 1986/87 Mint ! Item#:260082369788
Michael Jordan and Scottie Pippen rookies Item#:260082377763

Seller: 1996jennifer Another seller of Jordan rookies this time from Hong Kong the notorious land of reprint Jordan's. Just go and check ioffer and see how many come from there. Seller states "Please see the photo, I know there are reprints out there, but nowhere on this card is that stated."

Currently selling:
1986-87 Fleer Michael Jordan RC #57 NM/Mint Item#: 300076260416
1986-87 Fleer Michael Jordan RC #57 NM/Mint Item#: 300076260696

Seller: numberoneinstock 0 feedback high dollar item. Seller states "I usually deal about 98% with baseball and vintage baseball, so I really have no use for NBA cards and don't know that much about the specifics of them. I know there are reprints out there, but nowhere on this card is that stated. this card has vibrant strong colors, looks great." Need I say more.

Currently Selling: Update: ITEMS REMOVED BY eBay
1986 FLEER MICHAEL JORDAN RC NR MINT Item#: 200074402502
1986 FLEER MICHAEL JORDAN RC NR MINT Item#: 200074402617

Seller: williama7604 Another 0 feedback seller with yet another Jordan. This appears to have lost it's bottom. Has also left out any type of item Hype. Leads me to believe this seller has done this before and gotten caught.

Currently Selling: Update: ITEMS REMOVED BY eBay
Michael Jordan 1986-87 Fleer premier Item#: 120081216009

Seller: olebbstuff Been around for a while has sold several reprints. Click on the seller name and you will see the Negs taken from toolhaus.org. That should clarify things.

Currently Selling:
1933 Goudey #144 Babe Ruth NYY EX/MT Item#: 87227208511933
Goudey #160 Lou Gehrig NYY ex/mt Item#: 330057338876

Seller: dankmaster35 We missed this seller and my apologies to grewickedboy for not posting this in our original post. The seller purchased this card on 1/24/07 1941 playball 1941 Ted Williams item number 260075997335 (note: item has since been removed by eBay) from driver9212, who sells doctered up reprints. By docterd up we mean the seller makes them look aged. He now comes back and lists the item saying "THIS IS AN ORIGINAL 1941 PLAYBALL TED WILLIAMS #14! THERE IS CORNER WEAR AND THE BACK IS A LITTLE FADED, BUT WHATS NICE IS THERE AREN'T ANY CREASES!! THIS IS TEDS MOST COLLECTIBLE CARD AND ALSO BOOKS @$1500.00!!!!!!! " Since he first listed the item the seller has lowered the Buy It Now Price 5 times. You tell me you think this guy is looking for a sucker?

The Item:
1941 Play Ball Ted Williams #14 item number 22007677062

That is all for this edition Keep checking back for updates. Till then rememeber our motto!

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Fool Me Once, Shame On Me, But Fool Me Twice …

eBay Seller alangbaum offers this Michael Jordan RC:
Item number: 300003523984 - 1986-87 86 Michael Jordan Fleer Rookie Card RC Ungraded ITEM REMOVED FROM EBAY


In the description the following is stated:

“The card is in great condition with great centering and sharp corners. In my opinion this is a 9 or a 10. Please look at pictures. Since the card is not graded, as per Ebay policies, the card must be listed as a reprint. I accept paypal, money order, cashiers check, or personal check. Payment must be received within 7 days of the end of the auction. If payment is not received within 7 days, negative feedback will be left, a non-paying bidder will be filed, and the item will be relisted. I will ship item once payment clears. No returns. Insured shipping will be $8.00. Please let me know if you have any questions.”



Well I have a question, and so should you. If this card is truly a 9 or a 10, then why not get it graded before selling it? One possible answer to consider could be that the card is a counterfeit.

I have one more question. Can someone show me the ebay policy that says if a card isn't graded then it must be listed as a reprint? That isn't a policy. What it is, is a disclaimer. "Hey, I sold it to you as a reprint, so why are you compaining that it is not the real card?"

Also note the “No returns” policy.

Remember that if it seems to good to be true, it probably is.

Now let’s assume that the card is in fact “the real deal” and let’s continue to look on ebay for another one.


eBay Seller picolin2 is also offering a Jordan RC.
Item number: 270004128732 - 1986-87 86 Michael Jordan Fleer Rookie Card RC ITEM REMOVED FROM EBAY
[07/09/2006 UPDATE: After item was removed by ebay, seller immeidately relisted it as a one day auction. Sellers trying to avoid removal of their items by ebay will often use one day auctions over the weekend. Item number: 270005863434 ]


Now let’s look at how the seller describes it.
“You are bidding on the item pictured. This is a 1986 Fleer #57 Michael jordan. This is your chance to own an item of the greatest player! Put your bid in now!! Dont miss your chance to own this item!! .
The card is in great condition with great centering and sharp corners. In my opinion this is a 9 or a 10. Please look at pictures. Since the card is not graded, as per Ebay policies, the card must be listed as a reprint.
Payment must be received within 5 days of the end of the auction. If payment is not received within 5 days, negative feedback will be left, a non-paying bidder will be filed, and the item will be relisted.”
Notice the similarity, or should I say the exact duplication of the red bolded text. Apparently somebody copied someone else’s listing description. But what else may have been copied? How about the photos?

Notice that the images from this auction are identical to those of the first auction except that they have been cropped, including eliminating the original ebay watermark in the lower right corner that would be a sure sign of copying when the watermark showed up twice on the image. The lighting accents and reflections are identical. The seller here tells you to look at the pictures, but why? They are pictures taken from someone else’s auction. Now you need to ask yourself, does this seller even have any card at all, whether it is real or counterfeit?

Well actually, the seller just may have some counterfeits. Looking through the seller's recent feedback you can see that he recently bought 3 counterfeits here: Item number: 200003552782 - MICHAEL JORDAN 1986 FLEER ROOKIE X3 REPRINT

If you are going to spend the time to earn the money that is required to purchase a card like this, shouldn't you invest a little of your valuable time in doing some research?

Before You Bid Arm Yourself With Knowledge!