Update Sellers To Be Concerned About
Fleer 1986 Michael Jordan Rookie card number 57. A sought after card by many collectors, a counterfeited card by many crooks. On any given day on most auction sites you can purchase this card in both graded and ungraded condition. Purchasing this card in an ungraded state is as risky as entering the World Series of Poker with no poker experience and expecting to win. Actually I think your odds would be better entering the World Series of Poker. Why both novice and savy collectors bid on this card ungraded for any amount of money is beyond me.
This past week alone we witnessed at least 50 unauthorized reproductions of this card being offered on eBay. Many of which had insinuations that the card my in fact be real. I am glad to say that most of them where removed by eBay's Trust and Safety thanks to the deligence in reporting these violations by a handful of concerned collectors and the cooperation of eBay. Recently the Upper Deck Company purchased the rights to the Fleer brand name , and have expressed their own concerns with the counterfeiting of this card. As such under eBay's VERO provision they have the right to have eBay pull any card that they deem to be in violation of their trademark rights.
How do these fake cards get into the marketplace? Easy there are people who actually print these and sell them as reprints to collectors. In this auction the seller ran multiple sales for this reproduced card for months on both eBay and IOffer.com Fleer Michael Jordan Rookie Mint. They have since been stopped by both sites but who knows how many hundreds of these fakes are out there waiting to make their way back into the marketplace as real.
For those intrested in owning a fully graded issue they are readily available at very affordable prices. Recently a high grade PSA 8 sold for $535. This goes to show that a patient collector can in fact purchase high grade authenticated example of this card for a little more than what they may pay for a more than likely fradulent example. Here is a case where a buyer purchased a non graded issue for $480 !!! Now I ask you, who would you rather be the person who purchased the PSA 9 or the unsuspecting non graded buyer? These types of suspicious sales happen each and everyday again we remind you don't be in such a hurry to purchase any card that may come along because you simply want to own a high dollar collectible. There is always another card, and if you show patience you will wind up with high dollar authentic card where there is no question that what you have is the real thing.
With that we bring you this weeks " Sellers To Be Concerned About"
Seller: nochancegolf23 low feedback and has sold 2 Jordans in the last month item number 8709911189 for $256 and item number 8708946898 for $280. This week they offer
1986 Fleer Michael Jordan #57 Mint item# 8713213585
Seller: vidiaware low feedback and if you look at the picture provided it looks exactly the same as our previous sellers nochancegold123's picture. If you look at the scans you will notice they are exactly the same, there is a mark form the scanner backing on the upper right hand side above the R on the card back image and a little mark in the lower portion of the card in the center. Offers us:
1986 Fleer Michael Jordan Rookie item# 8712477179
Seller: rhare1 Selling a reprint of this card but says that you can fool your friends with it. Which insinuates you can try to pawn it off as real. This is an unlicensed reproduction.
1986 Fleer Michael Jordan RC Reprint item# 8713353025
Seller: bepbeprrrep Another low feedback seller with this story " I was fortunate to come across 3 of these cards while searching through my uncle's card collection that was handed down to me a couple years ago. I've been hanging onto them since then, but they are serving me no purpose anymore. I have bills to pay and mouths to feed. This card looks like it's in great shape. The corners are all very pointy, and it has great centering. And there are absolutely no creases. The card is not prefessionally graded, so under Ebay's rules I have to list it as a reprint. All sales are final." If you look at their buying for the last 2 months or so you will notice they have spent over $1500 in purchasing cards and autographs. I guess they donlt need to sell those to feed any mouths.
1986 Fleer Michael Jordan RC NR/MINT item# 8711619060
Seller rebound333 Again low feedback and says "This card is in excellent shape with no creases or bends The two right corners are a "little" imperfect, other than that great card. I have not had this card graded but I assure it's genuine" Well with a 1 FB rating I would be real comfortable buying this item. For another $20 I could buy PSA 4 in about the same condition.
Michael Jordan Rookie Card 1986 Fleer item# 8711115404
Seller: 32490 All the telltale signs of a bad deal. This is what they have to say " This card is being relisted. The last time it was put up for auction a lot of people asked me if it was real. I bought it on EBay earlier this year as authentic. I have purchased a card in better condition and for a lot more money then this one and that is why I'm selling this card. As far as I know it's real. IF YOU ARE UNCOMFORTABLE DON'T BID! I WILL NOT OFFER ANY GUARANTEES. IT IS BEING SOLD AS IS" Now the seller purchases cards of questionable authenticity as in item# 8701821326, yet we are supposed to believe the card offered is real?
1933 Babe Ruth Goudey item# 8713316396
1948 Leaf Jackie Robinson item# 8713312931
Seller: pantyman_52 I won't comment on the name but has this to say "You are bidding on a 1952 Topps Mickey Mantle Card. Card has rounded corners, and a few scuff marks. Card looks to be real but I am unsure. This is a GREAT card to add to any collection. "
1952 Topps Mickey Mantle item# 8713442559
Seller: shizzle17 returns after having a 52 Mantle removed which we reported on in our September 7th edition now comes back to say " PLEASE READ!!! CARD WAS SENT IN TO PSA AND CAME BACK AS RECOLORED AND THEY WOULD NOT GRADE IT AND I AM SELLING IT AS SUCH. THERE WILL BE NO REFUNDS ON THIS CARD AS I AM TELLING IT AS IT IS!" Well if PSA returned the card as recolored and ungradedable why isn't it slabbed that way with the description and PSA number? PSA does slab those cards.
1933 GOUDEY BABE RUTH # 149 PSA RECOLORED item# 8712706016
Seller: tristage After self removing the item last week they return with it again saying " You are bidding on a 1986 fleer #57 michael jordan rookie card. I am selling card as reprint .got card out of box that i bought at a yard sale.have no back ground on card thats why being sold as reprint.this card is in mint cond.card is sold as is,no returns"
Fleer 1986 Micheal Jordan Rookie item# 8713634658
Well for now that's it we will update as we find items of questionable authenticity till then please remember our motto.
Before You Bid Arm Yourself With Knowledge!
This past week alone we witnessed at least 50 unauthorized reproductions of this card being offered on eBay. Many of which had insinuations that the card my in fact be real. I am glad to say that most of them where removed by eBay's Trust and Safety thanks to the deligence in reporting these violations by a handful of concerned collectors and the cooperation of eBay. Recently the Upper Deck Company purchased the rights to the Fleer brand name , and have expressed their own concerns with the counterfeiting of this card. As such under eBay's VERO provision they have the right to have eBay pull any card that they deem to be in violation of their trademark rights.
How do these fake cards get into the marketplace? Easy there are people who actually print these and sell them as reprints to collectors. In this auction the seller ran multiple sales for this reproduced card for months on both eBay and IOffer.com Fleer Michael Jordan Rookie Mint. They have since been stopped by both sites but who knows how many hundreds of these fakes are out there waiting to make their way back into the marketplace as real.
For those intrested in owning a fully graded issue they are readily available at very affordable prices. Recently a high grade PSA 8 sold for $535. This goes to show that a patient collector can in fact purchase high grade authenticated example of this card for a little more than what they may pay for a more than likely fradulent example. Here is a case where a buyer purchased a non graded issue for $480 !!! Now I ask you, who would you rather be the person who purchased the PSA 9 or the unsuspecting non graded buyer? These types of suspicious sales happen each and everyday again we remind you don't be in such a hurry to purchase any card that may come along because you simply want to own a high dollar collectible. There is always another card, and if you show patience you will wind up with high dollar authentic card where there is no question that what you have is the real thing.
With that we bring you this weeks " Sellers To Be Concerned About"
Seller: nochancegolf23 low feedback and has sold 2 Jordans in the last month item number 8709911189 for $256 and item number 8708946898 for $280. This week they offer
1986 Fleer Michael Jordan #57 Mint item# 8713213585
Seller: vidiaware low feedback and if you look at the picture provided it looks exactly the same as our previous sellers nochancegold123's picture. If you look at the scans you will notice they are exactly the same, there is a mark form the scanner backing on the upper right hand side above the R on the card back image and a little mark in the lower portion of the card in the center. Offers us:
1986 Fleer Michael Jordan Rookie item# 8712477179
Seller: rhare1 Selling a reprint of this card but says that you can fool your friends with it. Which insinuates you can try to pawn it off as real. This is an unlicensed reproduction.
1986 Fleer Michael Jordan RC Reprint item# 8713353025
Seller: bepbeprrrep Another low feedback seller with this story " I was fortunate to come across 3 of these cards while searching through my uncle's card collection that was handed down to me a couple years ago. I've been hanging onto them since then, but they are serving me no purpose anymore. I have bills to pay and mouths to feed. This card looks like it's in great shape. The corners are all very pointy, and it has great centering. And there are absolutely no creases. The card is not prefessionally graded, so under Ebay's rules I have to list it as a reprint. All sales are final." If you look at their buying for the last 2 months or so you will notice they have spent over $1500 in purchasing cards and autographs. I guess they donlt need to sell those to feed any mouths.
1986 Fleer Michael Jordan RC NR/MINT item# 8711619060
Seller rebound333 Again low feedback and says "This card is in excellent shape with no creases or bends The two right corners are a "little" imperfect, other than that great card. I have not had this card graded but I assure it's genuine" Well with a 1 FB rating I would be real comfortable buying this item. For another $20 I could buy PSA 4 in about the same condition.
Michael Jordan Rookie Card 1986 Fleer item# 8711115404
Seller: 32490 All the telltale signs of a bad deal. This is what they have to say " This card is being relisted. The last time it was put up for auction a lot of people asked me if it was real. I bought it on EBay earlier this year as authentic. I have purchased a card in better condition and for a lot more money then this one and that is why I'm selling this card. As far as I know it's real. IF YOU ARE UNCOMFORTABLE DON'T BID! I WILL NOT OFFER ANY GUARANTEES. IT IS BEING SOLD AS IS" Now the seller purchases cards of questionable authenticity as in item# 8701821326, yet we are supposed to believe the card offered is real?
1933 Babe Ruth Goudey item# 8713316396
1948 Leaf Jackie Robinson item# 8713312931
Seller: pantyman_52 I won't comment on the name but has this to say "You are bidding on a 1952 Topps Mickey Mantle Card. Card has rounded corners, and a few scuff marks. Card looks to be real but I am unsure. This is a GREAT card to add to any collection. "
1952 Topps Mickey Mantle item# 8713442559
Seller: shizzle17 returns after having a 52 Mantle removed which we reported on in our September 7th edition now comes back to say " PLEASE READ!!! CARD WAS SENT IN TO PSA AND CAME BACK AS RECOLORED AND THEY WOULD NOT GRADE IT AND I AM SELLING IT AS SUCH. THERE WILL BE NO REFUNDS ON THIS CARD AS I AM TELLING IT AS IT IS!" Well if PSA returned the card as recolored and ungradedable why isn't it slabbed that way with the description and PSA number? PSA does slab those cards.
1933 GOUDEY BABE RUTH # 149 PSA RECOLORED item# 8712706016
Seller: tristage After self removing the item last week they return with it again saying " You are bidding on a 1986 fleer #57 michael jordan rookie card. I am selling card as reprint .got card out of box that i bought at a yard sale.have no back ground on card thats why being sold as reprint.this card is in mint cond.card is sold as is,no returns"
Fleer 1986 Micheal Jordan Rookie item# 8713634658
Well for now that's it we will update as we find items of questionable authenticity till then please remember our motto.
Before You Bid Arm Yourself With Knowledge!
posted by alinchitown @ 9:47 AM
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