Catch Them In the Act
As much as we preach about doing research on sellers it seems folk's just don't get it. Ninety percent of the time a thief will give you a clue of some kind that will tip you off that what they have for sale is garbage. Most of the time this clue will be in the "Item Description" section of the auction. Here is a live example of what I mean.
Seller: themike3434 has listed these cards this week:
1952 Topps Mickey Mantle #311 item # 8719048435 Item Description for this card is as follows "You are bidding on a 1952 Topps Mickey Mantle Rookie card. The card is number 311 out of the 1952 Topps set. I will start by saying that this card came from my father. I dont know much about baseball cards, other than the fact that they were passed down to me. They were in the attic for a few years and i came across them while moving. This card is not in the best shape. The corners are soft but there are no holes or creases in the card. It looks like there may be some minor fading or even stains on the card. Like i said i know these cards are very old, but i do not know much about them. This card does not mean much to me, as i am not a collector. So i figured that a true collector should have my fathers cards. Like i said i am not a collector so please use your judgement when bidding."
1933 Goudy Lou Gehrig #160 item# 8719049601 For this card item description reads "You are bidding on a 1933 Lou Gehrig card. This card is number 160 out of the 1933 Goudy set. This is a card i got from my father. I dont know much about these cards. I would like a real collector to have them as they were passed on to me and i do not have a use for them. The card has soft corners bud very good color and very good centering. Please use your best judgement when bidding."
1954 Bowman Willie Mays #89 item #: 8719051684 For this "You are bidding on a 1954 Bowman Willie Mays. This card is number 89 out of the 1954 bowman set. Tis card is in great shape except for a couple of bumps on the corners, very minor! This card would grade a min of 6 i would guess an 8. I had this card handed down from my father and i am not much of a collector so i am getting rid of these cards to a real collector who will enjoy them." Nice how he gives a grade and isn't a collector.
1956 Jackie Robinson #30 item# 8719056929 For this he now is changing up a little "You are bidding on a 1956 Topps Jackie robinson # 30. This card is in great shape. As you would ecpect for a card of this age the corners are slightly soft but thats it. The color is great and so is the centering. There are no holes or creases on the card"
So what are the clues?
1. "The corners are soft but there are no holes or creases " These are terms that non collectors wouldn't use in describing a card.
2. "This card would grade a min of 6 I would guess an 8" How does a non collector know anything about grading scales.
3. "The color is great and so is the centering" Yet another thing said that only collectors would look for in judging a card.
4. "Please use your best judgement when bidding." Using this term means one thing and one thing only the card is probably bogus.
5. And finally what the real lie in this whole scenario is . Our seller claims not to know much about cards or to be a collector yet if you do an advanced search on items he has bid on you will find that on :
11/3/05 1932 Babe Ruth Sanella Type 2 ExM PSA 6 item # 8715223167
11/2/05 Yogi Berra 1961 Topps #425 BVG Graded 7.5NM item# 8716446107
10/31/05 1967 Topps Roger Maris #45 Graded PSA NM/MT 8 item# 8713880968
10/29/05 1979 Topps Factory Set NM item# 8713694225
10/26/05 1958 TOPPS BASEBALL SET item# 8714608788
he purchased all these items, and of course there are the items he is currently bidding on like the 52 Bowman Graded Mays, the 1940 Playball Shoeless Joe Jackson, and the 1948 Bowman Yogi Berra. (which by the way the last 2 cards mentioned are bogus. ). For the sake of saving some time you can take a look at the dozens of cards which he has bid on in the last month yourself. Now tell me this guy is not a collector. Last note on this if you click our archives for February 2005 you'll find a report on seller themike34 who was NARUed back then for selling the same junk. Both ID's are registered in WA is this a coincedence?
So I guess the morale to this story is look before you bid it'll save you aggrevation. With that let us give you an Update on sellers you shoud be concerned about.
Seller: baseballcards1010 A -1 Feedback rating offering some graded vintage issues, so we know they know better. But offers us these ungraded bueauties.
1952 TOPPS MICKEY MANTLE #311 item# 8719790781
1951 BOWMAN #253 MANTLE RC item# 8719804902
1933 GOUDEY #149 BABE RUTH item# 8719814913
1933 GOUDEY #53 BABE RUTH item# 8719823727
Seller: bmcd98 Sold this item a few days ago Topps #311 Mickey Mantle signed card item# 8717523490 and just happens to have these also:
Mickey Mantle Topps #311 item# 8719579447
1951 Willie Mays Bowman Card item# 8719586198
Keep checking out this blog for updates we will post new items as we find them, till then remember our motto!
Before You Bid Arm Yourself With Knowledge!
Seller: themike3434 has listed these cards this week:
1952 Topps Mickey Mantle #311 item # 8719048435 Item Description for this card is as follows "You are bidding on a 1952 Topps Mickey Mantle Rookie card. The card is number 311 out of the 1952 Topps set. I will start by saying that this card came from my father. I dont know much about baseball cards, other than the fact that they were passed down to me. They were in the attic for a few years and i came across them while moving. This card is not in the best shape. The corners are soft but there are no holes or creases in the card. It looks like there may be some minor fading or even stains on the card. Like i said i know these cards are very old, but i do not know much about them. This card does not mean much to me, as i am not a collector. So i figured that a true collector should have my fathers cards. Like i said i am not a collector so please use your judgement when bidding."
1933 Goudy Lou Gehrig #160 item# 8719049601 For this card item description reads "You are bidding on a 1933 Lou Gehrig card. This card is number 160 out of the 1933 Goudy set. This is a card i got from my father. I dont know much about these cards. I would like a real collector to have them as they were passed on to me and i do not have a use for them. The card has soft corners bud very good color and very good centering. Please use your best judgement when bidding."
1954 Bowman Willie Mays #89 item #: 8719051684 For this "You are bidding on a 1954 Bowman Willie Mays. This card is number 89 out of the 1954 bowman set. Tis card is in great shape except for a couple of bumps on the corners, very minor! This card would grade a min of 6 i would guess an 8. I had this card handed down from my father and i am not much of a collector so i am getting rid of these cards to a real collector who will enjoy them." Nice how he gives a grade and isn't a collector.
1956 Jackie Robinson #30 item# 8719056929 For this he now is changing up a little "You are bidding on a 1956 Topps Jackie robinson # 30. This card is in great shape. As you would ecpect for a card of this age the corners are slightly soft but thats it. The color is great and so is the centering. There are no holes or creases on the card"
So what are the clues?
1. "The corners are soft but there are no holes or creases " These are terms that non collectors wouldn't use in describing a card.
2. "This card would grade a min of 6 I would guess an 8" How does a non collector know anything about grading scales.
3. "The color is great and so is the centering" Yet another thing said that only collectors would look for in judging a card.
4. "Please use your best judgement when bidding." Using this term means one thing and one thing only the card is probably bogus.
5. And finally what the real lie in this whole scenario is . Our seller claims not to know much about cards or to be a collector yet if you do an advanced search on items he has bid on you will find that on :
11/3/05 1932 Babe Ruth Sanella Type 2 ExM PSA 6 item # 8715223167
11/2/05 Yogi Berra 1961 Topps #425 BVG Graded 7.5NM item# 8716446107
10/31/05 1967 Topps Roger Maris #45 Graded PSA NM/MT 8 item# 8713880968
10/29/05 1979 Topps Factory Set NM item# 8713694225
10/26/05 1958 TOPPS BASEBALL SET item# 8714608788
he purchased all these items, and of course there are the items he is currently bidding on like the 52 Bowman Graded Mays, the 1940 Playball Shoeless Joe Jackson, and the 1948 Bowman Yogi Berra. (which by the way the last 2 cards mentioned are bogus. ). For the sake of saving some time you can take a look at the dozens of cards which he has bid on in the last month yourself. Now tell me this guy is not a collector. Last note on this if you click our archives for February 2005 you'll find a report on seller themike34 who was NARUed back then for selling the same junk. Both ID's are registered in WA is this a coincedence?
So I guess the morale to this story is look before you bid it'll save you aggrevation. With that let us give you an Update on sellers you shoud be concerned about.
Seller: baseballcards1010 A -1 Feedback rating offering some graded vintage issues, so we know they know better. But offers us these ungraded bueauties.
1952 TOPPS MICKEY MANTLE #311 item# 8719790781
1951 BOWMAN #253 MANTLE RC item# 8719804902
1933 GOUDEY #149 BABE RUTH item# 8719814913
1933 GOUDEY #53 BABE RUTH item# 8719823727
Seller: bmcd98 Sold this item a few days ago Topps #311 Mickey Mantle signed card item# 8717523490 and just happens to have these also:
Mickey Mantle Topps #311 item# 8719579447
1951 Willie Mays Bowman Card item# 8719586198
Keep checking out this blog for updates we will post new items as we find them, till then remember our motto!
Before You Bid Arm Yourself With Knowledge!
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